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Masters Special 2025 SFS Get into it…
The brothers reunite for a special Masters 2025 episode where they discuss golf progress, predictions, and settle old scores with plenty of sibling rivalry.
• Josh's lessons with Adrian Fryer have improved his iron play but the brothers disagree about his overall progress…
• Debating the maximum distance from each pin Josh would need to start from to win at Augusta
• Discussing whether any of the brothers could break 100 at Augusta National during Masters week
• The emotional preference between seeing Rory McIlroy complete his career grand slam or Tiger Woods win his 16th major
• Sharing their picks for this year's tournament and dark horse contenders
• Recalling their favorite Masters memories including iconic shots and dramatic finishes
• A quick-fire Masters trivia competition with questions about Augusta National
• Setting personal golf goals for the upcoming season ranging from handicap improvements to simply finding joy in the game
can we start whilst you're playing with the screen or not? Yeah, yeah, crack on, I'm not going to do it can't be arsed. Okay, you can just pretend that's inside the clubhouse. Yeah, right, are you wearing a green hoodie, liam? Yeah, that's why I've got this black CK hat on. Why are you wearing a cap? It's a golf hat. Yeah, yeah, good team, we're talking about golf, all right? Okay, you ready, let's focus in. Okay, so, welcome to a master's special. Start From Scratch.
Speaker 1:Liam had the great idea of bringing us together, even though we're four brothers, to have a one-off episode. It shouldn't be a one-off episode, it should be weekly, or at least monthly episodes. But if and if anybody used to listen to us, you'll recall that we gave the reins to josh from there. It just became redundant, and this is the situation we're in. But we thought we'd do a master special because we love the masters, we love chatting about golf and there's a lot to talk about as well. So we've got me chatting about golf and there's a lot to talk about as well. So we've got me yep, my trust and obviously just me. Are you not going to introduce us all? Yeah, like, I don't know any podcast host who only introduces himself. So we've got me liam, josh and jack. Yeah, baby.
Speaker 1:On instagram, I asked if anyone had any questions for us to discuss on the pod. Josh and Jack yeah, baby. On Instagram. I asked if anyone had any questions for us to discuss on the pod. We're going straight into the questions, are we? Well, what else? You wanted to do an intro? I don't think anybody I honestly would like to do.
Speaker 1:I want to know what Josh has been up to in the time he's had off. Nothing I've actually been, if you're talking golf-wise absolutely zilch. You've had a few lessons, mate. Yeah, I did. I've been going to see a gentleman called Adrian Fryer Other coaches are available. Do you know what he got me into? A good place, liam, and Jack will attest my ball striking is in a good place right now, isn't it? It's trending in the right direction. Yeah, honestly, honestly now, if he was to see your golf game now, would he be proud or would he feel a sense of achievement? Yeah, definitely, he'd tell me not to come back.
Speaker 1:I'm in that stage. It's just as with everything in golf. It's a game of balance, isn't it? You know, my driving and my iron play is in a good place, but my putting in short games is not. Hang on. Is your driving in good place? No, I like that. I actually did like that. It's just my iron play Right. So three of the four main elements of your golf game are off-key and one of them, your iron game, which I mean let's agree to disagree is not where it should be. You said on the weekend in the clubhouse that it was the best place you've seen in a long time, did you not? Right now, you're lying.
Speaker 1:My question is do you feel when you go to these coaches, do you feel nerves? Go to these coaches, do you feel nerves? Actually, not nerves. Is this your question or is it one from Instagram? No, my question's Josh.
Speaker 1:Do you feel guilt because you go to coaches that have built quite a good reputation? Well, adrian Fryer certainly has. Yeah, he's one of the coaches who have built really good reputations, and one we could debate about how much you actually listen to them compared to your own ego. But two you never improve. Why would I feel guilt? They should feel guilty. I'm the one paying them. They're not paying me to go there. Imagine I paid you for a service that didn't work. To be fair, disclosure that doesn't apply to adrian or totty or any of my other previous coaches, just in general. But no, I don't feel guilt at all. Imagine what a testimonial from josh would do to agent friday's business business. Imagine the coach who actually improves your game. I think he has improved, but Thank you, jack.
Speaker 1:You know what? He's striking the ball. Do you know? When someone strikes the ball and you hear a bit of like, it's not there yet I knew that was coming. He's never compressed the golf ball in his life. No, he scoops it.
Speaker 1:I watched him hit a three wood in Mum and Dad's last night in the field right into another field. It went straight in the gorse. It's not like he was aiming or anything, and he was pleased with it because the farmer wouldn't find it in the field. It was struck well though, but like I say, my game's in a good place. I'm not. You know it's early in the season. We've only had one comp down. So we'll see. You'll see on the video when me and Jack do the one-off. What comp down. So we'll see. You'll see on the video when me and Jack do the one-off, what we should have done last year. Final of the match play. Oh yeah, you can't see the audience with our you two are going to have a match recorded. Yeah, we just decided right this second. We were thinking about it with Jay.
Speaker 1:Well, tristan, you know Jack's new found love and commitment towards his pod. Yeah, yeah, you tell me actually, jack. You tell me when's a good time to bring that up, because I've been telling Jess about how pissed off I was. Do it now, if you want. Am I lost here? I don't know what's going on, just for the audience listening. Jack this past week has been so eager to get the pod restarted and he's been messaging flat out we agreed to do this masters special and the first opportunity to get on the pod, first opportunity to get on the pod, jack couldn't make. Yeah. Since then, how how many time did you have to chase? Interesting, it's not only that.
Speaker 1:Jack is a typical sort of youngest brother, so one of four and the baby, the family spoiled, rotten by my dad. Hasn't re just me and me and Liam. We've all had great upbringings, but me and Liam have had a totally different upbringing to Josh and Josh, to your credit, you are nowhere near Jack. Jack is a different level, okay, so he's just entitled with everything. Yeah, he is. Yeah, I love you, josh. It's like you were brought up in the favelas, mate. You know what I mean, but my sort of it. It's gonna come in one of the questions on instagram.
Speaker 1:Josh, we're gonna talk about how I built up a 25 000 download podcast for you, gave it over and said here you go and yeah, obviously you just did nothing with that jack as as a maximum, as, like the, the most input he's ever put into this is to partially turn up for some of the recordings. So he never commits. He used to say to us, might make it, might not make it. And we'd say to him well, the dynamics are obviously changing because we need to know if you're on the pod or not. And he couldn't commit to it. And then he's gone out for two beers. He's put on the brother's chat. Listen, just had a couple of beers. We could make this work. We need to stick to this pod. It really just got great.
Speaker 1:His vanity is insane. He thinks that his mere presence on the pod is enough. That, for him, is getting the pod restarted. Arranging, arranging a meeting will not get us around the table for anything or things. Yet, from from my point of view, the boys yeah, I said it was couple beers, it was like eight. All right, yeah, calm down on that. Two, liam, you can't talk mate, you were giving it the big one. I wasn't even playing golf two years ago and I smashed in a match plate. So just what? Wasn't even playing golf two years ago? What I beat him in the match plate to get you to the final, to beat into the final, to beat you in the final, yeah, but why? Why were you not playing golf? I've just had a ref two years, just like you don't all know, as all the viewers at home. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Jack probably has mentioned that on the podcast before. He he's got a bad knee, yeah, so he's been waiting for he did. He did the ACL, he got it fixed. Jack's got a bad knee. Jack's got a bad knee, yeah, so he had a bad knee, has he? He did an ACL and he got it fixed, played 40 for five games and did the other ACL because he hadn't trained that one in the time off. Yeah, in recovery, that's true. Now he's got an op. Now he's now hushed the op. From what month was it Jack? May it be Next month. Next month to the end of the summer, just so that he can dedicate his summer to golf.
Speaker 1:That's where your mind is at the moment, isn't it, jack? That's where you're at. I'm fully into golf. I've never been so committed in my life and that's because the up-and-coming juniors, who are about 12 in our club, are quite obviously better than him and me obviously, obviously at the moment, and apparently it's ignited the fire in his, in his body to see these 12 year old kids playing better golf with him.
Speaker 1:Can I just go back or not? I'm pretty sure the saying is a fire in my belly, not body, body. Yeah, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body, body by far. Can I stop? Yeah, you're wasting everybody's time.
Speaker 1:I think we go to the questions on Instagram. You're wasting those people's time, jack, apparently. Yeah, I'll slide on Leon there because Jack starts going on Leon playing golf at the moment. I don't think you should be running this pod anyway. You don't even play golf anymore. I've made my handicap active on Flexi Golf. Oh, wow, hey, well done, well done you. How'd you do that? Sign up on Flexi Golf, right, come on, crack all these questions, a lot of them. Are you heavy, josh? I'll bat some of them off there.
Speaker 1:Of all the players, who's got the biggest schlong? Oh, that's four. No, if you knew the answer to that I'd be worried. No, it's me, yeah, and then I think it's me, and then I'd say Jack. Fourth, and I don't know how. You two, to be honest, why am I getting eight? Eight Of all the players in the Masters?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the response we gave was Ricky Fowler. Of all the players in the field this year, the Masters? No, oh, vj Shane. Is Ricky Fowler in it this year? No, no, he missed it. I read an article on that this morning. Yeah, he's not in it. He needed a big weekend, yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what's happened, but, sorry, that's a tickling answer. Why? Why BJ Singh? I just think he's just big years. Oh, yeah, you know IBJ thing, I just think he's bloody stupid. Just pick his Him. Or Ernie Owls, the big, easy One of those two. Next question. Next question so why is Josh useless at keeping the pod going? That's a good question, you know, and I actually ask myself that often as well, and the answer to that question is there's no real answer other than I couldn't give a fuck about the pod.
Speaker 1:I remember when it was COVID 2020, when I had the idea are you taking all the like? You're saying that you started everything just quickly before I carry on with what I was saying. How do you think it went? It was you and your wife that thought of it, wasn't it? You and Eddie? So I don't know, actually I don't know. Has he been playing golf? Do you know? He plays like sporadically, not much at all. Not much at all. He's not a member. He lagged out then. So carry on. You thought this part in covert. So I thought the pod in covid.
Speaker 1:I remember that you needed a lot of persuading because my initial idea was I'm dry and miserable and I needed you to be some funk banter and you and you were you're really good, really popular character. I remember you needed a lot of motivation and attention to get you on the pod regularly and input the way that we wanted it to be. Do you remember? You overcame that. You then became like a pivotal part of it. You were day-to-day running. You were helping a lot. Then you took on editing. You started to bring guests on everything. You were a real part of it. Together we managed to get 25,000 downloads from start from scratch. Yeah, great guests. We had your dream guest in um, don't make a long drive. Oh yeah, we had all these guests on. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I said, josh, my life's about to change massively kids, job, different things going on. I can't do it and you commit to saying I'll take over, I'll do the hard part. I don't know any person, man or woman, on earth, that uses the excuse. I have kids more than you, liam. Yeah, jack, I'd have to agree.
Speaker 1:But do you know what's worse than that Is him thinking that you could take the reins? It is like, if anyone has ever watched or read Of Mice and Men, it's like George asking Lenny to take over a ranch. That didn't go well. When you have one employee, I'm Lenny and this pod is Curly's wife when you have one employee, you have to entrust it to that one employee. Yeah, but the thing I think what, what Sten does, if I'm being honest, is I couldn't be. It wasn't to do with the pod. I love the pod, I love doing the pod it is. I couldn't be hard. It wasn't to do with the pod. I love the pod, I love doing the pod it was.
Speaker 1:I couldn't be hard talking to you three for an hour a week. No, that isn't it. It isn't yeah, you're just you're making stuff up now. Yeah, what do you think it was then? All three of you, I think you. I accept that. That's the first thing that came to my head.
Speaker 1:Okay, trist, what was the first thing that came to his head? Laziness, dick. You know what, josh? I think there's an element of fear in it. No, okay, I'm looking forward to this guys. Fear of what? Just like your golf game, I think the reality of taking the reins and having control over whether you succeed or fail is too much for you.
Speaker 1:Next question no, let's, let's answer that question. The genuine answer is I couldn't be asked editing. Liam's got it right, liam's got it right. I couldn't be asked editing and coming out and spending one hour of my week. Maybe, if we were to do like a two hour session once every other week and you split it into two pods, I would be more on board with it and I split it into two pods. I split it into two pods. I would be more on board with that. Sorry, did you just say you'd be on board with doing more work? No, I said, it's the same amount of work, but it's more digestible. Instead of one hour every week, it's two hours every two weeks, but you split it into two parts. Yeah, same amount of hours, but it feels better, jack, you're getting it done in one session every two weeks. Yeah, same amount of hours, but it feels better, jack, you're getting it done in one session every two weeks. Yeah, exactly, you like that, justin.
Speaker 1:How come you never thought about that at the time then? Or why did you never broach that? It's not up to me to bring absolutely everything to this pod. The whole pod was yours. You took it over. No, you took it over. No, no, it was thrust upon me. Oh, thrust at a time in which I didn't want. I didn't want anything to be thrust upon me. Are you sure right? Next question in what other ways have things been thrust upon you? They're not PG. This is a family friendly pod. Next question for you again ways of things being thrust upon you. No, they're not PG, this is a family friendly pod.
Speaker 1:Next question for you again what's the maximum distance from each pin Josh could start from to win the Masters? That would be a question. Actually, I think, josh, we're going to come to you last. I'm going to go Jack, liam, me and then you, because you can then comment on our answers as well. Okay, who's going first? You go first, jack, Youngest to oldest.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking realistically. Don't hurt yourself about 15 foot. Hey, he's got to be in yards. What's that in yards On the green? Yeah, 12. 12 yards no, hang on. 15 foot translates to 12 yards yeah, according to Jack, no, that's genuine, I think. 15 foot, I think he's three per More greens than he's super. I'm just thinking that a three per on every hole is a three on every hole, yeah, so if I made a three on every single hole of the Masters, I'd win the Masters, wouldn't I? That's what the question was, wasn't it? Yeah, but by a landslide. Okay, let me change it. Then I'd maybe go just chipping off the green. Okay, alright, I'll take that Chipping off the green on the fringe. I'm not offended by that, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Trist, considering this is for you to actually go and win over four days. I actually think putting on the fringe of the green is enough of a challenge. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on par fives because you could five put and have a pass because you could five putt and have a par, so you could four putt. I would say I'm not giving you anything. I genuinely don't think that you could do it. So I'm going to say, yeah, you'd be lucky if you could do it within 20 yards. 20 yards away to win the Masters over four days. Yeah so 20 yards, 20 yards. I could be 20 yards away to win the Masters over four days. Yeah, so 20 yards.
Speaker 1:Every hole you can't just choose to be on the green. It's 20 yards away from the pin, so that could be in a bunker in the rough fairway or green even. Yeah, he's not winning it, right, Liam, I don't think he wins the Masters if he has to chip. I think that some holes, the way the greens are, at the Masters not that I know, but he would either scull a chip or fat a chip yeah, I mean I would, yeah and find himself having to chip back up or chip again. I think Josh could easily walk off with sixes and sevens, possibly eights, on some of the holes if he is chipping. So me I'm going to be kind to Josh here I think, putting from the furthest point, from the pin, on every hole, you think he'd win.
Speaker 1:Putting from the furthest point on every hole, I think he would challenge, it would be. It would be. You know, it would be a good watch. I'm not 100% sure, like I'm not 100% sure, that he would win, but I would be invested in that sort of TV If it was, if this was like a me-v-you situation not that I'd be playing playing.
Speaker 1:But if you told me now yeah, are you willing to bet on josh being allowed to put from the fringe or the furthest point of every green away from the hole? I'd be. I'd be willing to put a lot to say that you can't win. You can't win. I would win. It's 20 yards though, yeah, but that's trickier because some of the greens are massive and really undulating. Look at the green behind me.
Speaker 1:Right, you put him here and he puts to the hole there. He's nowhere near it. I don't think he's giving my credit. He has. He has five attempts. Yeah, don't forget, don't forget. He's given my credit. He has five attempts, don't forget, don't forget. Yeah, the longer I play there, the better I'm going to get. Yeah, no, that's the thing. That's another point that you are making. That's in support of us. There's no evidence at all that says the longer you play any type of golf, the better you get. In fact, the evidence says the complete opposite the more you play, the better you get. In fact, the evidence says the complete opposite the more you play, the worse you are getting. I didn't know. The three of you were in the band with George Michael because you'll chat one.
Speaker 1:Do you actually want to know what the yardage in my head was? The actual yardage in my head was yeah, probably about 50, 75 yards. 120 yards is what I think I about 50, 75 yards. 120 yards is what I think I would win the Masters from 120 yards. You are deluded. Maybe I have to hear your answers. I think You're telling me that from 120 yards, which is an approach shot, I would. Again, I'd be willing to put a lot down, probably my house.
Speaker 1:Okay, that says you wouldn't make a single birdie in that week. Yeah, because you've got it in the exact location of the green. Like in the exact location of the green. Like I want people to try and picture what jack means when he says that. Do you mean the green or do you mean the right place to get on the green into the pitch? We've all seen the Masters, where you hit it on one spot and it trickles down to the hole or they miss it and it goes into the water. That would be all week.
Speaker 1:Do me, liam and Trace, the favour and don't speak unless you're virtually spat at, ok, because you come out with some absolute horseshit. Can I just throw a statistic at you, please do? Yeah, don't throw it. On the PGA Tour, from 125 yards, players average approximately 20 feet away from the hole after their approach shot, right? So tall players from 120 yards are hitting it on average to 20 feet and I would say on average that well, they're getting down in two, aren't they on average? No, oh, yeah, from the from that, that? That's an approach shot and then two putts. That's three. Yeah, which?
Speaker 1:If you were the average tall player, you'd go round the Masters in 54 shots. No, that doesn't make any sense. Yes, three times 18. Yeah, sorry, round the course. I thought you meant in general. You're not the average. I thought you meant in general. Round the course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not the average tall player. You are actually. Oh, okay, hold on, you are so far from it. What is 54 times 4? Where do you get 54 from? It's 216, all right, where do you get 54 from? Liam just said all right, he said 57. Lowest ever Masters total 268. So 268 minus 16. What's that? That's 52 shots. Yeah, so I would have 52 shots to play with, no right.
Speaker 1:Let's think of it this way, jay, if you were the average tall player, it'd be 54. The average score around the Masters I don't know what it is the par's, isn't it? So there is, there's 18. You basically you're saying that from 120, 20 yards, you're giving yourself 18, an 18 handicap on top of the top players and you're winning from that distance. Yeah, yeah, I would love it if the Masters did something like that. You know, they just got a bloke to go around 18 handicap or whatever before the tournament and see he gets to set the yardage and see what the score was.
Speaker 1:Do you know who you are? Do you remember years ago? Yeah, you're probably not going to know there was a lad on YouTube who went round boxing gyms just like fighting people. Charlie's Eleanor. Charlie's Eleanor. You know him? Yeah, he got knocked out with Deontay Wilde, didn't he? That's funny that he gave me that one. All right, I think 120. You guys think otherwise, obviously. Next question Right, yeah, think 120. You guys think otherwise, obviously. Next question, right? Yeah, um, if anybody listening the one, two, three max people that will listen to this. If you disagree or have your own thoughts, be really interested to hear that, because it's now become a big debate and between now and sunday, next saturday, at liam's house I imagine this being a conversation like a point of conversation, but we're moving on nonetheless.
Speaker 1:So would you rather Patrick Reid win or Patrick Cantlie? Is that for me or just for us in general? For me, patrick Reid, because, yeah, he's sort of Mr America and we're not supposed to like him and he has been a bit of an annoying character in the past. I can't stand people with like zero personality. I've spoken in the mirror. Yeah, snap, yeah, fair one.
Speaker 1:I don't know why Patrick gets the stick. That he does. To be honest with you. You're Patrick Reid. Yeah, I don't mind him. He's a bellend mate he had. I said hello to him in the open and he was loving it. What did I call it? I think I called him Paddy or something. Yeah, his caddy. Yeah, because isn't his caddy british? I think he might be his message. You know, I swear his caddy was his message for a bit. I think that's just the masters mate, where everyone is no, no, no, no, no. You look at pj tallwin, the first ever way in the yard. I think his message is was on the bag. So you know, I think I would rather see. Yeah, I think I'd rather see patrick reed win, just because in general his golf's a bit more exciting as well. I just could imagine imagine patrick canterley's walk up the 18th. No one, he'd won. I just I'd rather patrick reed won, because patrick can't lay. Do you know what I mean? Hey, patrick can't read. Oh my god, right. So we all in agreement with Patrick Reid.
Speaker 1:I've got one quick question To put in here quickly. It's maybe one for the couple of listeners we've got. Would you, I just want A or B? Would you rather A Rory win the Masters, b Tiger win A 16th Major. A Rory win the Masters B. Tiger win a 16th major. A Rory win the Masters. Without a doubt, I'm obviously going for A Tigers, add 15. For me, I know Jack, that's why I said he wins a 16.
Speaker 1:For me I'd love to see Rory win, but Tiger, for me, tiger woods, yeah, because I think that if you take emotion out of it as entertainment value, well, actually you can't take emotion out of it because I'd be able to say it's what you're basing it on. Probably find that really emotional, but I think it's hard for me to go against my childhood hero in Tiger Woods and wanting him. The goal was always to surpass Jack Nicklaus. It's never going to happen. I doubt he ever plays top level golf again, exactly. So why would you like one more major? Yeah, he's going to be on 16, but he's still going to be two behind Jack Nicklaus. Because of I did like Ratif Goosen. Yeah, because of the drama of last time the entertainment value in Tiger Woods winning for me personally.
Speaker 1:I think I said to you the other day, josh, in terms of quality entertainment, if you told me that Rory was leading you the other day, josh, in terms of quality entertainment, if you told me that Rory was leading on the back nine, I'd obviously be watching, but potentially something could get in the way. I wouldn't let anything get in the way of watching Tiger Woods down the back nine of the Masters Like a house fire. Jess went into labour, she's pregnant, but anything, if Tiger Woods is in contention on the back of the Masters, I'm zoned in With Rory. I'm like, oh, he might do it, he might not. I'd like to watch it. I appreciate that one. I am calling bullshit on that.
Speaker 1:On what? What bit Jack Trish's point where I know for a fact that if Rory McIlroy was leading on the back nine of Sunday, he would be watching and he would want to see who's going to win. So he's chatting. Absolute. What, josh? Can I just ask you, jack, wow, yeah, have you listened to what I said or not? No, bit of both, because you made a completely irrelevant point. He's made to that. He, honestly, might be the best person I've ever seen do that like, come in with a completely irrelevant point and have so much passion behind it and I nod my hat to you there, jack. Yeah, because he doesn't care.
Speaker 1:Trish, that was a really nice one wordword answer. Yeah, you can't give me a one-word answer. Though you haven't asked me. I'm going to ask you now and I'm going to ask you to keep it one word Rory or Tiger. Yeah, I don't want to keep it one word. Right, then what word? You're Tiger as well. I'm Tiger as well. I'm Tiger as well. Yeah, because the chances of Tiger Rory has probably got a few years left in him. No, no, no, listen, in this game we're going to keep talking.
Speaker 1:If you don't kick Rory to win the Masters, yeah, he never wins it, he never wins it, okay. So you can't say, oh, okay, you never phrased it in that way. You didn't phrase it that way, that's okay. Josh, I thought it was obvious. Well, for the streamers to hear that I disagree. All right, well, there you are. Jack's answer won't change. Tristan, does your answer change? No, my answer changes because I think Rory deserves to win the Masters and I'd like to see him win the Masters.
Speaker 1:I think if Rory wins the Masters as well, the monkey's off his back, obviously on the Masters, the career-grand slam and he'd won his first major in 10 years. I reckon he would then go on to finish his career on about eight or nine majors. Can you just talk us through the monkey on his back analogy, what it means? I don't know where it's derived from or the historical background to it or reference to it, but I've heard people use it a couple of times and I just thought it was an apt analogy what we were talking about. Would you concur, jack? Yeah, I assume it's something about being a monkey on someone's back.
Speaker 1:Bob Bond, he's special If Rory wins the Masters. Yeah, when he wins. How many rolls of tissue are you going through? Oh, you have no idea, mate. You have no idea. I've got about five bottles of lube. I cannot wait.
Speaker 1:You know, I honestly, yeah, I think I'm his biggest fan. You know, I'm not even joking. You know I love the what they call full swing documentaries. Yeah, only because I like golf. I feel that it's really shit entertainment for bringing other people into the sport, not like the other documentaries or sport documentaries that will actually make people want to play that game. But I just think, unless he's a completely different guy off camera, rory just seems like a really boring person. I don't think that Rory is the type of person that you call because you want to spend some banter or have a good time.
Speaker 1:Rory doesn't get caught up in a scandal with a load of porn stars. No, yeah, you're not getting caught up in a scandal with a load of porn stars. Yeah, yeah, do you know what? Getting caught up in a scandal with all the porn stars and a dodgy knee? He sounds a lot like Jack, didn't he? Yeah, yeah, right, next, next question, if there's any uh, next question or not reviews, I'm not going back to this.
Speaker 1:So how much shots does the goat slash better brother slash awful hairline want to win at Augusta, which is kind of what we discussed earlier? Let's make this brief, then, so that everybody gets a fair share of the question time. But how many shots do I need to win? To make this simple um, you get your total minus the handicap, okay, so I would say, if you took a hundred shots off your total, you're still nowhere near. No, oh, no, no, no, no, come on now, that's being kind. I was actually looking at your Wales golf account this morning. Yeah, you rarely break 100. That's misleading. That's on a course. No, no, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's on a course that is a par 70, and in comparison to the Masters, particularly in comparison to Augusta, particularly during Masters week, I don't think you break 200 around Augusta.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm doing the maths now. So I think, yeah, that I would need a handicap of 62 shots Per round, per round, per round yeah, so 188. You need more than that? No, yeah, so 188. You need more than that? No, what so? I need a handicap of 62 shots per round. I disagree, I disagree, you need more than that. That is exactly double the lowest anyone's ever been at the Masters. So 268 is the best score. I would need 536 or whatever. The double thing is. I'd need 536 shots over four rounds, which breaks into 138, 134 shots per round, which is a handicap of 62 to par. Yeah, I think if you had 72 shots, that's four shots a hole. Yeah, you don't. No, that's too low, far too low. Yeah, I don't know. You know, like I said, for 120 yards and in, I'm fucking laser focused, you know.
Speaker 1:The question was you complicated the question, complicated the question, complicated the question what's the number taken off your total? I just told you. So what is the number taken off your total after four rounds? Oh, okay, 268. The fact that you're admitting that is crazy. As a keen golfer, someone who's played golf for a long, long time, you're admitting that you need 268 shots. Yeah, you think that's too much. You think that's too little, I don't know if it's too much. I think the fact that you also believe that you need to I mean, imagine how many shots would have to go badly to add 268 to a four round total, and your four round total is probably at least 400 minus 268,. Yeah, I think that's a perfectly. It's not bad. I mean, if he was having four shots a hole, that would be 188 shots off his total. So I think somewhere in the region of 200 to 250 shots over four rounds I mean it would be it's worth thinking about. No, it's not.
Speaker 1:The thing that does it for me is that Josh, as I say, he rarely breaks 100, right, when I was chair of comps on handicap I tried to throw that in there. There were beginners submitting scores for their handicaps. Don't be a beginner Low 100s, 105s, 106s, 107s to get their first ever handicap. These are people who have played golf for a matter of weeks.
Speaker 1:How long have you been playing golf, josh, would you rather do? How long have you been playing golf? Answer the question A couple of years, I think. No, you've been playing golf about 12 years Consistently and you have been so committed to the game in that time. Yeah, and you are. You're not a beginner golfer. I won't give you that you're better than them, but you're only three shots. In those 12 years you've gained two or three shots on a person who could start golf tomorrow and get. That's the thing's the thing, yeah, you talk about how many shots like. No one talks about how many shots I've had in that 12 years, and that's a lot.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, like it's what I'm actually going to say, though, is I would rather I would rather be shit at golf. Like I live by the sword, die by the sword. Yeah, like I'm never going to go around the golf and not pull a driver out, not pull two iron off the deck out, not try and hit a stinger. Do you know what I mean? I'd rather win at golf, doing the things I want to do, and that's why I believe that, when it clicks for me, I will honestly be a really good golfer. Compared to you, silly, I think I'll be the best, josh, me and you, well, jack me, and you have got that rick in us, and we um, what's the fields? No, we've got that flare, yeah. So, like god, yeah, baby rick playmate, but yeah, I, I, I would second that. I'd like to say me and mine and Josh's game. Liam is a great, an unbelievable golfer, really stepped up the mark recently, but I look at his game and I can't help but walk off the 18th yawning like oh, fairway green, fairway green, get into a tree and hit like a footballer. Do you know what I mean. Like, yeah, fairway Green, get into a tree.
Speaker 1:We're going to move on to the next question. Yes, I'm on it. Do you think any of you would break 100 down Augusta? I think that this question is for me. Jack and Liam, we don't need an answer from you. Can you tell us what's the part? Who asked the last question? Um, one is around, one of the tall brothers got it probably. Oh right, I'm gonna have words with them.
Speaker 1:Um, so, the past 72? Yeah, the past 72. Yeah'm going to make this really brief for me. No, I don't break 100 round Augusta in any circumstances. I don't think I break 100 round Augusta, but I am going to throw something out there. I think I have a chance of breaking 100 at Augusta. If I get a caddy, if someone like Tiger Woods is on my bag, I have a chance of breaking 100. Why choose Tiger Woods when he's somebody who knows the course and where to hit the ball, where to miss? Not that I would hit the misses, so choose the best candy then. Oh, that's funny, liam's.
Speaker 1:Okay, you all give your views and then I'll come and I'll loop in and I'll give my opinion on you three for the change. Yeah, okay, fine, jack, you're the honourable last one to talk. Boys, I break Andrew. Yeah, he just believes it, mate, he manifests it. There you go. Yeah, he manifests it. If you believe it and you see it and you really believe in it, you'll be able to see it. You know what is? Oh my god, you don't see it. Oh my god, you don't see it. On ball day. No, all jokes aside, no, I'm not taking it in with Noe, not even with Caddy. Jack said no. Liam said With the right Caddy he might do it.
Speaker 1:I do think Liam's by far got the best chance. Liam's got the best Tita Green Game Of any of the families Ever had. I mean, it's not Not much to beat, but His Tita Green Is really good and his Chippen At the moment Is really good. It's his putting that lets him down. That's what I mean. Would you really struggle with putting on Augusto? Thanks, jack. I didn't know that. I didn't know that putting on Augusto was hard, but thanks for letting me know. Good insight, very good insight. It's a guy who believes it into existence.
Speaker 1:Next question, next question, right? No, we're out of questions. That's Next question, right? No, we're out of questions. That's not a question. Oh, my God, trace. I do have something else, though. What you know? We run the illegal bet every year. Yeah, got the old paddy power, isn't it? I'm pretty sure it's illegal, isn't it? It's like sweepstake. It's like a sweepstake, isn't it? State goes to charity, mate. So we let's discuss about our choices for the bet, and anyone who hasn't put their names in and is listening and talking to the three people that are listening, it needs to be in. Well, you'll probably listen to the potters too late, so forget it.
Speaker 1:But I've gone for someone quite different this year, because the point is you need three players and it's a total combined score. Lowest combined score. They've all got to make the weekend. So if one of your players misses the cut, it doesn't matter. The other two you're out. And this year I'm not convinced with my picks. But I want to try and be different. I want to stay away from the Scheffler, rahm, rory choices, because everybody gets lumped in the same scores.
Speaker 1:I've gone Xander Schofield, my American. Matt Fitzpatrick for my European, which I'm unsure of. I just think, wow, okay. And Tom Kim, my rest of the world. Tom Kim, is he American? Yeah, but he plays for Korea. Oh, does he? Yeah, right, fair enough. So Tom came. Who else? Master Patrick and Xander Schofle.
Speaker 1:I think Xander Schofle is a good, is a good bet. I don't know, he's just come off an injury. He's. He's struggling. It's Masters, isn't it? Yeah, I don't think. I don't. I, to be fair, I don't think. To be fair, I don't think we'll give him credit either. He won two majors last year. He's the first person to win two majors in the year since 2018. That's Brooks, and Brooks won two there. So I would I accept that. I don't like Fitzy or Tom Kim. I like them. I don't think they're good picks.
Speaker 1:Liam, what am I going to talk about my picks, or? Yeah, I've gone for Mine's, just what everyone's gone for Scotty, rory and Corey Collins. Mark, that is so typical of you. That's so boring. It's not not, though, because I think I think, scotty, I think this is the first year where it's a net Scotty's going to be fighting top 5. He's going to be up there. He's just there. The thing that did it for me was last week's performance, where he went on a back 9 run. That was, he's just there. Yeah, and the thing that did it for me was last week's performance where he went on a back nine run. That was just insane. To put himself in contention for the Texas-Houston Open, and I just think I didn't think much of him until last week because he's had a hand injury. He's only recently come back into the game so I thought he might be hung over, just sort of trying to get back into the swing of things. But last week was, I think, has kind of catapulted him back into content, like into the Scotty that we saw last year, where he just sweeps everything up and I honestly think he's going to turn up at the Masters and there's no way Scotty falters or doesn't make the weekend or is going to be a long way off the leader. You just know he's going to be up there.
Speaker 1:Rory is playing probably the best golf in recent years. I think he's coming into the best golf in recent years. I think he's coming into the Masters in some form. I think his overall game is there. He just needs to start well. Rory's issue with the Masters the last few years is that he'll start with a 78 or a high 70 round and then you kind of. So he always has one bad round, doesn't he? He always has one bad round, but it's usually at the beginning. I think if Rory comes out of the blocks he'll be up there. I think he's got a point to prove. I think he's going to embrace the pressure this year and the expectation.
Speaker 1:Corey Connors is kind of an outsider. Yeah, I'll say Corey Connors because I know you've gone into a lot of detail about his life and all his life. Talk to me about Corey Connors. Has he had any hand injuries? Has he filmed a hand injury? No, I think Corey Connors is just more statistics.
Speaker 1:I knew it would be who's doing well in the FedEx. So the thing is yeah, the way this bet works. Obviously it's an aggregate score of your three picks. Yeah, so statistically speaking it's stupid to not go. You don't get rewarded for going with the most popular picks because the prize pocket's split, but then again you're way out of it if you're not with them.
Speaker 1:But Scottie is just. I don't think I've. I never saw Tiger Woods in his prime, but I can only imagine Scottie is somewhat similar. I'm not saying he is Tiger Woods in his prime. I'm saying what we saw the past two, three seasons is what I imagine seeing prime Tiger was like. He is just always there. He's just always there, like flirting around the leaderboard, whereas Rory just I don't know. Rory can play really well but he can also play really poorly. But having said that, my three picks are Rory I'll never not pick him.
Speaker 1:Scotty, scotty, he's the favourite. He's won it two in the last three years. Number one player in the world Lowest scoring average ever, apart from Tiger Woods. And then the third one's Min Rooley. I hit it a mile just when, a couple of weeks ago, played well in the Masters before. I guarantee you they will be the most popular three picks, though that's the only bad thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know about Minwoo Lee. I think he's maybe a bit too young. He did, he was under pressure that back nine last week he put one in the water and I just think a major, especially the Masters, if he's in contention even I just can't see him. You don't need him to win, do you? No, not so good. You just need him to post a decent score. He's got it on another level. Iq-wise he's fucking unreal. Yeah, fair play. I don't know my picks. I think Rory's always a solid pick because he's obviously that good at golf.
Speaker 1:But with the point you made, in the last five years Rory's come into the Masters. On form. He's doing your lack of golf knowledge. Yeah, he's been out the game for a while where he's pulling that from. He's been out the game for a while and he's chatting absolutely wham.
Speaker 1:Can we move on from the question now? No, yeah, jack, go on, hit us with your picks please. I'm going to just say Rory, yeah, like you pick him. Anyway, I've got brooks kekka. Okay, I've gone hurricane.
Speaker 1:You know what it's funny? It's funny two different levels yeah, while he's not. He's not a golfer. And two, yeah, he's. He's not international. He didn't even pick it. Yeah, he's not international. He didn't even pick international player.
Speaker 1:He's 3-1. I haven't picked my other yet what we? So you've just sat there going. You can ask me. You can ask me. I'm doing my research still. Is that why you've got your pen out? I do like Siwoo Kim. Why you want to see Siwoo Kim, why you want to see Siwoo win? He's always. Yeah, I want to see Siwoo Kim. He's always been in the Reds, in the Masters, which is good. Okay, do you know what that means? Trish, first, if we're keeping you from them, mate, you know you crack on. I see you're looking down at your phone. I've got to keep you from anybody else If you've got kids and that no, when Jack starts it's difficult.
Speaker 1:But Min Woo Lee again could be full swings documentary. They've portrayed Min Woo Lee to be pretty shit in golf. Who are you saying, mate? You know? Do you know about three different players? Then whim loomy, who got me. That's not funny. Um, I don't know if it's documentary or what, but they portrayed him to be like to struggle a lot and I know he won last week or the week before, but he seems to. When the pressure really hits him he doesn't seem to play very well. The whole documentary was based on him making the Australian team for the Olympics and he was in a good position and then just like, faltered the whole way. And it's only because other people faltered as well. They celebrate the fact that he made it on the team, fair enough, but he didn't get there by escalating and rising to the challenge. It's just all the other Australians done poorly as well. It was.
Speaker 1:I watched it, thinking. I wonder if Min Woo Lee is watching this and thinking why do I look so bad at golf in this? It's just constantly missed putts or bad rounds and him talking about how badly the round went. I'm thinking are they happy for him to be portrayed as shit at golf? Well, he had the. He had a bad weekend. End of the players as well, didn't he? Yeah, he was like I think he was winning, wasn't he, and he just had a bad round.
Speaker 1:Here's one for you. Before we move on, then, just a quick one. Yeah, just want the player's name and I want a short sentence as to why you think this Dark horse Unexpected pick and you're like he could also do well. Mine would probably be Jake Knapp, genuine. He's played. He could also do well. Mine would probably be Jake Knapp, genuine. He plays a good golf. He's always around about the top 20 of the leaderboard, hits a good ball. I wouldn't say, yeah, I agree, and I love his swing. It is, that's golf. Paul Knopf. Yeah, it is nice. I wouldn't. I don't know if this is an unexpected pick Probably more expected but for me, tommy Fleetwood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he hasn't won an American soil yet, so why didn't it be in the Masters? And I would like to see. I thought Rosie was going to win it in 2017, but it would be nice to see an English guy or a British guy win it. All right, fair one, trist. I can't give you a dark horse I don't know enough of the players but I can give you a player that I thought about choosing because I thought, right, he's class at Augusta.
Speaker 1:Imagine if Angel Cabrera wins yeah, he's backing it this year, isn't he the storyline? If he wins, it's year. Isn't he the storyline? The storyline. If he wins, it's just going to be bedlam. But in his heyday he used to just arrive here in April, smash Augusta twice. He's won, I think. Yeah, yeah, he's won twice. It'd be funny if they kitted his caddy out in an orange jumpsuit. That'd be pretty funny. You can check now, actually, how many times has he won?
Speaker 1:Mine's not a dark horse as such, but he has been trending in the right direction the last few weeks as Justin Thomas. Yeah, do you know what? It's not a bad shot. Who did you say? Jack? Sorry, justin JT. Yeah, he's been playing well. He's starting to find a bit of his form. He's actually I'd say he's a good pick. Just like you know, angel Cabrera only won the Masters once, in 2009, but he also won in 2007 US Open. No, angel Cabrera has won the Masters twice.
Speaker 1:I just Googled it. I just Googled it. I don't know why he does that. He's Googling himself now. He's probably yeah, and the answer is yeah. Audience on TED Talks yeah, there you go. This is what they want to know, they want to see, they want to hear about you Googling. He'll be asking if he can do the editing of this pod. When it's done, yeah, put it out. Yeah, he's won it once. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Well, interest, hey, thrilling listening. Are you going to apologise to Josh? Apologising on how? Firstly, unbelievable ball knowledge. Unbelievable, yeah, zero ball knowledge. Unbelievable, yeah, zero ball knowledge.
Speaker 1:Do you remember him? I think you're getting confused, because he came really close to winning the Masters in 2013 with Adam Scott, weren't you? He got into a playoff. Do you remember? He hit that shot on the 18th? It looked like he had to bird the 18th and he hit that shot and it looked like he hated it and it landed about six foot. Made the putt.
Speaker 1:Favourite Masters win. All right, favourite Masters win. Taking Ty Gould's 2019 out. Ah, okay, patrick Reid, 2018. Is it? No, it was one of my, one of my like. It was a really good Masters to watch, because it's that Masters that Rory had a fuck of a Saturday. Do you remember? Put himself into the final group and I was like I was buzzing and then Rory missed that eagle putt On the second, didn't he? On the final day and just Didn't kick on from there. Favourite Masters win. That's a good question. That's a great question, but me and jack are from 2012 onwards. Me and jack yeah, do I go for mine? Yeah, it probably is.
Speaker 1:Uh, I know bubba's won in 2012 when he hit that wedge, shot in the playoff, um, out of the trees. Yes, that's the one that springs to mind immediately because the the recent ones, the. I'm trying to think of a masters, a recent masters, that came closer to the wire. I think it might be so, to the wire. I think it might be tigers in 2019 when, like, the back nine was just stacked well, but he walked away with it last year, didn't he? Yeah, then it was um, you got. You got. 2012 bubba.
Speaker 1:2013, adam scott, that was a good one. 2014, bubba was pretty boring. 15ieth hammered everyone. 16. Spieth fucked it and Willett won. Yeah, yeah, 17,.
Speaker 1:My personal favourite, sergio and Justin Rose. Yeah, sergio eagled 15, 15. And 2018 was Reid and we liked that one. 19,. Tiger 20 was DJ. Do you remember?
Speaker 1:That was in the next? Yeah, even Covid. It was. He like lit the field. Yeah, the only the only fun thing about that was that you only had to wait like a few more months until the next Masters.
Speaker 1:2021 was Hideki. Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. That was a good one, was it? I don't remember that was a good one, was it? I don't remember that being a good one. In what year, then, did Ocarion finish and get his update with the winners? 2022 was Scotty's first one, 2023 was John and then 2024 was Scotty again. In what year, then, did Mickelson hit it out? The pine straws on the team 2010. That's probably my favourite. He dates me that. And then, from the ones you listed, me and Jess won a lot of money when it was Garcia-Rose and we were watching it because I had Garcia, she had Rose, or she had Rose and I had Garcia. So it was like good watching knowing that. Yeah, that was my favourite.
Speaker 1:2017. Jack 2012? Yeah, no, 2013. Adam Scott yeah, you liked Adam Scott, didn't you? I loved Adam Scott, and that was my first. We just got back into playing golf, so I remember watching it. I remember we were watching it and obviously went to the play-off. He sent that part. He shouted there come on, you Aussies, didn't he? Do you remember? Yeah, I really felt that when he said that, right, move on, jack, go. What were the options? That was 2017. Jack 2013. Liam 2012. What was yours? Trist 2007.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought you guys would have gone for, like, tiger 2005 or something. Oh well, I wanted to. You're going recent one, no, not recent one, but they're all going to be Tiger, aren't they? You know what I mean? Yeah, what it's, not really someone, but just they're all going to be tiger, aren't they? Don't mean the chip shot on 16 in 2005, probably the, the most memorable, most famous golf shot of all time? Yeah, um, taking tiger woods out of it? Yeah, probably that. But the one with the wedge shot? That was his foot.
Speaker 1:Was that his first major? I think it was, wasn't it? Yeah, masters twice. Yeah, I can't. I can't even think of a shot that like sort of gets anywhere near that tiger chair, can you? Yeah, you're already just always in in major, in majors in general. If you, you, I don't think.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's hard to compare it against anything else, but if you put greatest shots ever in brackets of moment skill and drama, well, that would be in the moment when it's so, moment and skill, that's enough. No, because then you've got like I think you've got to take in shot. So is it like a long shot to the hole? Is it a shot around the green? It's just, it's just moment and skill, mate. And then the skill is. The skill is dictated by you. Know how hard the shot is? Okay, yeah, that's fine. So it's fair enough. It's a simple way upon it. I do over complicate things. So so yeah, in terms of moment and skill, it's like a 10 out of 10 on both, like more than a 10 out of 10. If there was the fact that the chip was where it was and against the grain and moment was incredible as well. So when you statistically look at it, statistically that way, nothing else can come close to my knowledge.
Speaker 1:I reckon number two at Masters, that would be number one. Number two would be Bebbers, a hook out the tree. Yeah, right, next on the agenda point. Then I know it's just free chat. Now what? There's no quiz. Well, I haven't prepared a quiz. Have you prepared a quiz, liam? You prepped the agenda for the call. You were very vocal about the agenda for the call and now you're picking off that there's no quiz. No, I'm not the host, but you wrote the agenda there. Oh, do you mean to hear about the agenda? Right, which one of us wants to make the sacrifice and not play in the quiz? I think it should be the thickest guy, jack, your host. Do you want me to host it Because I've won? I won loads. Actually, let me host it.
Speaker 1:Just to let you know, tris as well, I've recently acquired a new three-word, as Liam was saying before pending payment to a very good friend of mine, al James. If he's listening, well, he won't be now. He won't be now. Yeah, I reckon we lost him and Tristai fucking giggling about Angel Cabrera and that what are you drinking? Gin, gin, do I have time to go get a lolly? No, yeah, jack, I made that answer. You got five seconds, but what's he going to do with the lolly?
Speaker 1:Eat it. It's not illegal to eat stuff on the podcast. You know? Fucking hell, jack, what are you doing? Mate, jack, you can't eat that on the pod. Do you need me to tell you that? Do you not know that? I don't know why. I don't know why you can't eat it, because it's the background noise. No, is that him? Whoever's talking will. It'll prioritise the voice over the crunch of the crunchy. Ice cream, mate. Honestly, mate, I'm not scared of you. It's fine, right? So we're going to finish with a quiz, but I'll tell you now I haven't prepped a quiz. I'll pull the quiz up now and we're going to finish with a quiz and a five-minute segment on our goals for the season. Oh, no way. Yeah, you can log off. You can log off. You can log off.
Speaker 1:Is this a Masters? This is a Masters special quiz. Yeah, we'll do first to answer. Actually, put your cursors over the raise hand thing, because it will tell me which order you ordered it in Ready. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't do that actually, because you'll just cheat. Alright, it's first answer, right?
Speaker 1:Question one who was the first golfer to win the Masters in consecutive years? A Jack Nicklaus. B Arnold Palmer. C Jimmy Demerit. D Arnold Palmer. C Jimmy DeMeritt. D Tiger Woods. C Jimmy DeMeritt.
Speaker 1:It would help if I got the answers. The answer is Correct Jack Jimmy DeMeritt. No, can I just Not that I want to take control of the situation. Giving us options Is a stupid idea Because everybody's going to listen. I just not that I want to take control of the situation. Giving us options. Yeah, it's a stupid idea because everybody's going to listen at the same time and go with the same answers as you give them. So it's, your questions should have been simple enough for people to give quick fire answers, and you do as quickest. Hmm, so again, and Jack, that was a complete guess, it was because I hadn't heard anyone but him. Here we go, you ready, first question. So just straight up. No multiple choice. No multiple choice.
Speaker 1:First question of this Masters special quiz what holes make up Amen man corner? No, no, 12, 13. It's 11, 12, 13. I'm gonna give the point to trust. He almost made it sound like he had more holes to do, but it is indeed 11th, 12th and 13th. Did he say that before me, did he? Yeah, are you even listening to the pod right? 11th, 12th and 13th? Did he say that before me? Did he? Are you listening to the pod Right?
Speaker 1:Who was the first golfer to win the Masters four times? Who was the first golfer to win the Masters four times? Liam, you're out until Jack and Trish can answer. If it's not Jack, nicholas, I don't know who else has won it four times. I'm going to have to go with Arnold Palmer, correct? Tristan's got two points. Arnold Palmer good one, I was going to go. Gary Player.
Speaker 1:Next question who was the first international golfer to win the masters? Hideki gary player. Gary plays a characterist. I did hear the first time. Okay, oh yeah, oh yeah, in Snatch I was like, did you actually answer that? I mean I can't laugh because I didn't even answer, but what happened? So that was Trist has been in 3-0, yeah, no, 2-0, 3-0. What's the three questions we have? Amen Corner, arnold Palmer and Gary Clay? Yeah, sorry. What's the three questions we have? Amen Corner, arnold Palmer and Gary Clay? Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1:What hole or which hole at Augusta National is known for its iconic bridge and beautiful scenery? At Rays Creek, 16th 12th, correct, 12th the 12th. Well done, jack. 3-1. Hey look, hey, here we go. Yeah, smart that mate. Yeah, well, smart. I've got a poster at the top. You do know that didn't come up at all. Yeah, I know it's called the Golden Bell. The hole is called that. Yeah, which Masters winner Famously never Turned professional and remained An amateur throughout his whole life?
Speaker 1:Something Jones, bobby Jones, bobby Jones, 3-2. So we're going to do first to four because it just makes it interesting. It's 3-2-0. So Tristan's on match point, but Jack's catching up. Alright, who holds the record for the lowest 72 score hole? Tristan Johnson. Yeah, it's DJ. Tristan wins the quiz. It's DJ with, like I said earlier, 268 strokes.
Speaker 1:That concludes the quiz for this year, which I think shouldn't stand. You were, I know you want us to ask why it shouldn't stand. So let's just agree and move on. Yeah, actually that's a good idea. No, I should agree and move on. Yeah, actually that's a good idea. Liam, what? Just agree with you and move on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not that his win shouldn't stand, but it wasn't in time. Not that your quiz win doesn't win. Is that what you meant? I thought you meant your quiz shouldn't stand. So you don't think? Dustin Johnson's? No, actually I disagree with you because it's like complaining about a boggied pitch in Sunday League. Yeah, like it's the same for everyone. Everyone looks different every year. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Everyone turned up to play that course at that time. No, no, no, you could say that people who won, the players after it moved from May to March. You said everyone turned up apart from the thousands of spectators. It doesn't matter, he still won the golf cup. He was the best player over four days. He was, I'm not disputing. I told you. I wasn't disputing that.
Speaker 1:I'm saying that he shouldn't be holding the record of lowest score around the Masters to win because everyone else had an equal playing field. It was held at the same time under the same course conditions with the same spectators or whatever there is, and he had no spectators. Different golf course played either easier or whatever. Just it was just shouldn't stand. Shouldn't stand the same way. Just remember that. Actually, don't give a about this, like to the point where any target.
Speaker 1:So I will agree to disagree right right onto the final segment. Trust, if you want to leave, mate, you can't. You know you're not going to lose goals. Yeah, what are our goals for this upcoming golf season? I'm serious as an open golfer who's just going to do the flexi-golf and play in open comps. Do you not want to just say that you'd like to win the Texas Scramble? You'd like to maybe win the Pairs? No, I don't have any intention or want to win. I really bothered. If I get a few games in mid-week, I'll be mad.
Speaker 1:Is he compared to as dry in a shit sense of humour before? Yeah, what? What did he always say? Then I'll start with my goals, if you want. No, josh, I just want to make sure that you know I am actually going. Yeah, yeah, that's fine, you can't Because I'm recording the thing. Oh, okay, go on then, josh.
Speaker 1:My goal this year is To my new player handicap is 23 shots off the white. I would, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would like that to be down to 16, 16 and below, which is more than achievable. I would also like to go and see Adrian Fryer once every six to eight weeks. I think that's a good, good balance for me. They're my only two goals for the year. And to win a comp, win a board comp off the white, they're reasonable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jack, just to find the love for the game again, yeah, which I think I've already found, but You've completed your own goal. You've completed your own goal for the year. That is fantastic, jack. I made that for you. Yeah, you think about your goals, jack. I'm going to go to Liam, because Liam's probably got his eye in that one.
Speaker 1:Mine is short and sweet, really, and it'll be a tough task. It's for my index to start with three Hundred. Bad joke, not to cut that out, just three. So I thought I was cutting that out, just three. So three point something. Yeah, three point something. I think it's more than achievable, but if I want it to be really ambitious, lower than 3.5. Okay, is that the only goal for this year? Yeah, selfish, really. They're individual. I don't really care about winning conferences. If my handicap comes down to that low, I'm going to be in contention with a couple of conferences throughout the season.
Speaker 1:Anyway, listen, I think one of your goals should be to shoot sub-70 off the whites that's Shooting level par in the first instance, off whites or yellows is a big ask. 70 off the whites that's shooting level par in the first instance, off whites or yellows, is a big ask. I think it's there. My game is there at the moment, maybe, but I don't like, I don't know. I was saying to you last year, wasn't I? I think I'll probably break 70 before I shoot 70.
Speaker 1:Tristan, what are your goals? I told you I don't have any. I don't have a set, not necessarily with golf, just life. You got any goals? Yeah, to get to the end of 2025 without having another breakdown. How many ads so far? One, one that's fair. That's a good goal. Jack, is that your goal as well? Not having any more knee breakdowns? No, my goal personally or in golf, both Personally, just to continue being me Great and three, not three golf, I'd say get back to a decent handicap, which is six.
Speaker 1:Get back to six five handicap and just find some consistency in the game. Very inconsistent at the minute. Cool, thanks Jack. It's okay, you're welcome. Hey guys, thanks for coming on. It inconsistent at the minute, thanks Jack. Hey guys, thanks for coming on. It's been a blast. I really have enjoyed it. I would say I enjoyed it just about below the level that I needed to enjoy it. To carry the pub on. It's not going to be carried on, but I enjoyed it the maximum I could without carrying it on. That's a fair assessment.
Speaker 1:Are we not doing a two-hour session next week? It's the week after, jack. What's your availability, mate? Whenever, I'll be available when Josh wears a helmet. Are you okay to lead it? Are you okay to lead this now? I won't lead it from a standpoint. No, I know you've got something to say. Say it. I was going to say that I'm looking forward to Jack's leadership with it because he's taken such an interest when he was two beers in. Well, I've taken a big step and I've signed into the Instagram account, so I'll be more active on that and you've got to be careful because I will be more active on that and you better be careful because I will be active on you. That is so bad, man Right, we're going to call it quits there, and let's just hope that the next time we do talk whether it be in a month, two months, two years, whatever it is Rory has donned the green jacket. Be out on the lookout for that match of me and Jack. That's generally going to happen.
Speaker 1:Another segment our bets for the week. One player we've said goodbye and we've just done our bet. Is this guy for real? Is he honestly for real? I'm saying end call, goodnight, taste. Love you for real. Okay, I'm signing call. Okay, goodnight, tesla view.
